Coronavirus Covid-19

[Flo179]

But the point is that how many things are supposed to kill us? I was born in 10975 and i have survived how many scares?

Global cooling, global warming, new ice age, climate change, Y2K, right wing radicalism, socialist weatherman terrorist troupe coming back, Ebola, Sara, Mayan prophecy, Trump will end democracy, Obama is the anti-Christ and on and on and on it goes.
Just don’t buy into the fear.

I understand that now xx

Thank you xx

 

[seventiesdemon]

But the point is that how many things are supposed to kill us? I was born in 10975 and i have survived how many scares?

Global cooling, global warming, new ice age, climate change, Y2K, right wing radicalism, socialist weatherman terrorist troupe coming back, Ebola, Sara, Mayan prophecy, Trump will end democracy, Obama is the anti-Christ and on and on and on it goes.
Just don’t buy into the fear.

But the biggest killer by far, and becoming more so because of modern lifestyle.............is older age. The old age virus gets you in the end, even if nothing else does, and those who are lucky to reach it.

 

[Scarletbegonia]

Has spawn/made obvious how disgusting racist lot of folk are toward Asians. So much hate and ignorance. Attacks and slurs thrown and on and on. Fear mongering everywhere. Thanks, mainstream media. Ya doing a shit job like usual.

Yep. My nieces were insulted at school because one had allergy symptoms. Never mind half the class had actual colds,from, ya know, corona viruses, not so novel.

so, I’m in charge of getting my workplaces up to speed on standard precautions. I’m horrified neither had a plan. Not even for flu season.
So, for face rests, I’ve decided to go conservative, and treat those after any contact. I’ve also banished the fuzzy/fleecy padding until there is no cause for concern. (Basically, I’m being a bit more careful than standard cold/ flu season cleaning. People drip, drool and sweat onto my tables.)
I will wipe all surfaces at the beginning and end of my days. Including light switches and door knobs. I argued that sanitized cloth towels are fine unless a client shows symptoms. Then, go with disposable.
What sucks is hand sanitizer is expected during sessions in case I touch my face. And I’m having to make a solution since gel alcohol and isopropyl alcohol have run out locally.
One location told us to bring all sanitizer we had at home to the chair booth. Um, no. Get your own materials.

 

[Scarletbegonia]

Neil Degrasse Tyson is asked about coronavirus.

 

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[deleted4021601]

Neil Degrasse Tyson is asked about coronavirus.

I always enjoy listening to him, but he has a modernist view of science that—for better or for worse—the Internet has rendered obsolete.

Of course, people should still absolutely wash their hands.

 

[Scarletbegonia]

Let’s look at just your country.
Number of unprovoked shark attacks in US waters in 2019: 41
Fatalities from those: 1
COVID 19 cases in the US, clocked as I’m writing this at 8 am Mountain time, 564. this is the disease, not viral exposure, fyi.
Deaths as of writing: 22.

Tell me again, how I’m more likely to get attacked by a shark living in the Rocky Mountains than get exposed to some dimwit who coughs and sneezes over all surfaces. Because I see that daily. I haven’t seen a shark since I was in Santa Cruz in 2016.

Downplaying is as bad is over hyping. This virus is a relative of SARS. When you get it, and the disease develops, it’s closer to pneumonia. Not every exposed person will develop the disease. (Think of HIV and AIDS. It’s not 100 percent development.)

 

[deleted15807]

I always enjoy listening to him, but he has a modernist view of science that—for better or for worse—the Internet has rendered obsolete.

Exactly what does that mean? The internet should be our source?

 

[Scarletbegonia]

Exactly what does that mean? The internet should be our source?

a google scholar search turned up a piece from 1930, and an opinion piece from 2017.
I would like to know exactly what santino means, too.

 

[deleted15807]

Dr Fauci, head of NIH Infectious Disease, says we may discover the ultimate fatality around the same as seasonal flu much lower than WHO's 3.4% which they clarified later as being rather crude based on a particular region in China.

On the basis of a case definition requiring a diagnosis of pneumonia, the currently reported case fatality rate is approximately 2%.4 In another article in the Journal, Guan et al.5 report mortality of 1.4% among 1099 patients with laboratory-confirmed Covid-19; these patients had a wide spectrum of disease severity. If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2

Covid-19 — Navigating the Uncharted​

 

[deleted4021601]

a google scholar search turned up a piece from 1930, and an opinion piece from 2017.
I would like to know exactly what santino means, too.

Apologies for not being clearer. In a nutshell: modernism held that science and technology were indisputable bellwethers of truth, guaranteed to deliver peace and prosperity; postmodernism, epitomized by the Internet, sees truth as perspectival and often colored by political interests. For the latter, the tragedies of world war (among other things) showed that science and technology, too, can be used to destroy and/or manipulate.

I think scientists such as Tyson don’t always take into account the culture to which they’re speaking. Though, again, washing hands and following common medical advice seems a good place to start in addressing the current situation.

 

[deleted15807]

Apologies for not being clearer. In a nutshell: modernism held that science and technology were indisputable bellwethers of truth, guaranteed to deliver peace and prosperity; postmodernism, epitomized by the Internet, sees truth as perspectival and often colored by political interests. For the latter, the tragedies of world war (among other things) showed that science and technology, too, can be used to destroy and/or manipulate.

I think scientists such as Tyson don’t always take into account the culture to which they’re speaking. Though, again, washing hands and following common medical advice seems a good place to start in addressing the current situation.

Many people don't know how to use the internet and don't know the difference between a good source and a bad source. There are some possible solutions to that.

Google CEO Calls Internet a Cesspool, Thinks Brands Are the Solution

But just information without some kind of editing and knowledge of how to use it isn't likely to lead to good outcomes in the quest for information. I believe science and technology are bellwethers of truth but that idea cannot be confused with what's out there on the internet as Google's CEO posits it's a cesspool and a breading ground of false information. It's broken in fact according to CEO of Twitter.

 

[deleted4021601]

Ironically, though, Google sorts its pages according to popularity not “truthfulness.”

I like science and tech as much as the next person, but a string of abuses (from Hiroshima to global pollution) have called its status into question. In this sense. the Internet’s skepticism is symptomatic of a wider problem...

 

[deleted15807]

Ironically, though, Google sorts its pages according to popularity not “truthfulness.”

I like science and tech as much as the next person, but a string of abuses (from Hiroshima to global pollution) have called its status into question. In this sense. the Internet’s skepticism is symptomatic of a wider problem...

And sadly there are algorithms in place that serve up what they think you'll like. Truth is not a factor. Not confident at all humanity will survive Twitter and Facebook.

 

[BigBadWolf84]

Thank you X

How's it like where you are?

Has the general public gone into panic and bulk buying yet ?

Are you able to find what you need?

Yeah, we got folks here in GA treating it like a hurricane. Water, canned food, tissue, sanitizer, and more water. The biggest worry is the ATL airport. Literally everyone comes from there. It's the busiest airport in the US. Plus some of those folks on that cruise are Georgians.

 

[BigBadWolf84]

Let’s look at just your country.
Number of unprovoked shark attacks in US waters in 2019: 41
Fatalities from those: 1
COVID 19 cases in the US, clocked as I’m writing this at 8 am Mountain time, 564. this is the disease, not viral exposure, fyi.
Deaths as of writing: 22.

Tell me again, how I’m more likely to get attacked by a shark living in the Rocky Mountains than get exposed to some dimwit who coughs and sneezes over all surfaces. Because I see that daily. I haven’t seen a shark since I was in Santa Cruz in 2016.

Downplaying is as bad is over hyping. This virus is a relative of SARS. When you get it, and the disease develops, it’s closer to pneumonia. Not every exposed person will develop the disease. (Think of HIV and AIDS. It’s not 100 percent development.)

So in other words, the only people who should fear this thing are the elderly and people with weak lungs. In a few weeks, this will be in the same toy box as Ebola, Zika, West Nile etc. Wash your hands and vampire sneeze.

 

[seventiesdemon]

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Neil Degrasse Tyson is asked about coronavirus.

Wondering what goes on in the Universe is much the same as wondering what goes on in the human mind. Human imagination is probably just as limitless, mysterious and at times unpredictable

 

[rbkwp]

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Wondering what goes on in the Universe is much the same as wondering what goes on in the human mind. Human imagination is probably just as limitless, mysterious and at times unpredictable

ROME
wassent built in a day,apparently

history lesson, for the day duh
Wondering what goes on in the Universe is much the same as wondering what goes on in the human mind.



ps
USA/UK doing well,catching up
they who like the rest of the developed world
proudly proclaimed

'we have the nous to cope'

ie
we are better than Russia or China

 

[Scarletbegonia]

So in other words, the only people who should fear this thing are the elderly and people with weak lungs. In a few weeks, this will be in the same toy box as Ebola, Zika, West Nile etc. Wash your hands and vampire sneeze.

That’s not what I said at all. So, “in other words” is paraphrasing, and you did an excellent job for a Fox News intern.
As for “a few weeks” you do know there’s a reason it’s COVID 19, and not COVID 20, right?
Known case No.1 was 1 December 2019. I do expect that this virus, which is a SARS variant, SARS- Co-2 (also called Novel coronavirus) will run its course in a matter of months, but closer to the year mark.
Yes, comorbidities matter, but not so much as hygiene for the overall population.

 

[Flo179]

That’s not what I said at all. So, “in other words” is paraphrasing, and you did an excellent job for a Fox News intern.
As for “a few weeks” you do know there’s a reason it’s COVID 19, and not COVID 20, right?
Known case No.1 was 1 December 2019. I do expect that this virus, which is a SARS variant, SARS- Co-2 (also called Novel coronavirus) will run its course in a matter of months, but closer to the year mark.
Yes, comorbidities matter, but not so much as hygiene for the overall population.

Yes this is very similar to SARS just a much more potent form

India is on full lock down and so is
Italy is now

Lots of other governments are taking full control and giving this the up most of importance in dealing with this head on

Whilst the UK government just doesn't seem to understand there severity of the situation and isn't taking it seriously enough :/

Untill it's too late cases